Anonymous2: Since animals can't give consens to sex and it's illegal, doesn't it count as rape of an animal?
they don't feel same way about sex as humans do(well, save for doplhins).
does that mean you changed your outlook on rape or something?
since you seemed pretty opposed to illegal sex before.
LordAardvark: @Anonymous: Yes, but Tumblr have a history of nuking blogs with CG beastiality on it. My blog has been around for around 3 years, and I'm not going to risk it on puppy porn. Patreon seems to have no issue with it, though.
@Anonymous: I've addressed this in great detail in this post: http://lordaardvarksfm.tumblr.com/post/130316158798/content-of-a-more-legged-disposition
Anonymous3: but how does it make both parties consenting if an animal is literally incapable of feeling same sex drive as a human?
by that logic, necrophilia is OK too since the corpse can't say no either and both are illegal just like rape?
if an animal can't give consent, it's rape of an animal.
Anonymous4: @LordAardvark: some SFM artists said that you only need to change the preview image to avoid that, like zooming it or cutting the animal off the pic. great job anyway ;)
Anonymous5: @LordAardvark: some other SFM artists said that you only need to change the preview image to avoid that, like zooming it or cutting the animal off the pic. great job anyway ;)
LordAardvark: @Anonymous: Animals are legally incapable of giving consent, sure. But I don't go by a legal definition. My metric is simple: are the parties involved being forced? Is it against any party's will? Is any party in obvious distress, or otherwise not enjoying themselves?
If yes to any of these questions, then it is rape.
If no to all of these questions, then it is not rape.
And you are correct, under this definition, loli and necrophilia fall through the cracks. But it is fallacious to assume this is the one and only tenet binding my ethics. Loli falls under an entirely separate tenet, and technically necrophilia isn't actually covered by any of my tenets. I just won't do it because I have no interest in it.
Anonymous6: but it's still rape since animal can't give consent.
and you have openly spoke against rape.
what? is this less rape than what you perceive as other rape?
Venomous_Sasuage: @Anonymous: Do you not see how he's humping her? If that's not a doggie being horny and wanting to fuck, then I don't know what this is.
LordAardvark: Again, LEGALLY they can't give consent. But I don't bind my morality to the law, just as the law should not be bound by morality.
I've already argued my point. At this point, I can only assume you're either incapable of basic reading comprehension, or are purposely trying to antagonize.
In either case, I am done talking on this subject. I have made my point and presented my argument, albeit in a very simplified form for the sake of brevity.
Take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me.
Anonymous8: no problem with pictures like these, involving polygonal model characters, but beastiality in real life!? no way, that's sick and wrong on so many levels, and nothing to do with religion or bigotry, it's just common sense and being a decent sane-minded human being, yuck!
Anonymous9: Can you really be that stupid? Do you know the meaning of the words reality and fiction? Do you think polygons are living things? Should we censor ALL videogames because hundreds of NPC are brutally murderered?
aryan826: just to help ardvark out a bit (not that you need it :)) what exactly do you define as consentual?
cause most likely what you consider to be consentual is actually not gona stand up in cort. for example, verbal consent without multiple witnesses doesn't count. so unless you say in front of multiple people that you are ok with having sex with a specific person, or you have a document signed by that person, then technically there is still grounds for rape. if however you get someone drunk and they they say yup lets fuck and you have witnesses, even though they might not be in the right state of mind, that isn't rape. sooooooooooooooooooooooo there's that. also if a dog starts to hump your leg, are you raping it? i don't think so.
Anonymous11: How the hell is this rape? The dog clearly enjoys and is doing it himself, he's not being forced even by his "non-human uncontrollable sex-drive". She is obviously giving consent too. You can't use rape in this context at all.
Besides, this shit is fiction, as in these are pixels.. In real life beastiality is a totally different thing, I find it pretty damn sick.
Anonymous13: @Anonymous: I don't really see how fictional porn extremities would make you do said extreme in real life, unless you started confusing fiction with reality. I don't agree with him on that part.
It would be different if this was a real life video and actually contained rape. 2D/3D characters are just that.. characters.
Anonymous14: @Anonymous: but that's what he said himself, so I'm wondering why does he think differently of what should go in his criteria of what is bad, since he explicitly stated that if one likes rape in hentai, they're rapists in real life.
Not really sure why you linked this, especially assuming you're the same anonymous trying to argue me. Since this is just proof that I argued the idea is the same.
LordAardvark: At any rate, I feel that the vast majority of people who come to this animation give a single damn about my opinions. Or yours, for that matter.
This entire argument is fairly trivial. I'm not going to lie when I say I expected to take shit for this, but not through some association to rape.
I've made my argument, and now people can ready through a publicly available chat to further indulge themselves in my thought processes.
You all are free to make your own judgments. That's entirely your prerogative. Just as I am done discussing the topic of consent with regards to animals, and I am now done discussing the topic of my personal opinion on rape and rape fantasies.
XIII: you thought this was a place where people jackoff to porn? hahaha, nah, son. we bitch about animated polygons and try to put human reasoning towards digital images.
aryan826: o also i like totaly come here for the characters. i dont come here fore the idea or raping women or animal abuse. i come casue i like to see my favorite character doing interesting activities. like fucking my other favorite female character that have now got 14" dicks. that dosnt happen ion regular porn
geromy: This is not real. Is does not matter what goes on in this fictional depiction of sex. You're all huge faggots. That said I cam pretty hard to this
Germloc: I don't think they should let any Anon people comment at all....it allows for idiotic opinionated people to feel a bit more emboldened (that...may or may not be a real word). And I could blow the Anon that started the nonense's original argument straight into the douche bag's hall of fame but won't since the type can't ever seem to realize through logical and reasonable arguments that their opinion has been rendered irrelevant and unrealistic. LordAardvark do you bro. Shouldn't even respond to anyone unwilling to stand behind their moronic comments by way of anonymous posting!
Anonymous22: Dear gods, so many ni#&er-brained Anons running a muck lately. Don't worry Lord, I'll take some this baseless 'heat'. I just poked my cat in the ribs. He looked at me funny. Now they'll likely try to get me for animal molestation. Have fun people & happy fapping.
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they don't feel same way about sex as humans do(well, save for doplhins).
does that mean you changed your outlook on rape or something?
since you seemed pretty opposed to illegal sex before.
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@Anonymous: I've addressed this in great detail in this post: http://lordaardvarksfm.tumblr.com/post/130316158798/content-of-a-more-legged-disposition
by that logic, necrophilia is OK too since the corpse can't say no either and both are illegal just like rape?
if an animal can't give consent, it's rape of an animal.
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If yes to any of these questions, then it is rape.
If no to all of these questions, then it is not rape.
And you are correct, under this definition, loli and necrophilia fall through the cracks. But it is fallacious to assume this is the one and only tenet binding my ethics. Loli falls under an entirely separate tenet, and technically necrophilia isn't actually covered by any of my tenets. I just won't do it because I have no interest in it.
and you have openly spoke against rape.
what? is this less rape than what you perceive as other rape?
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I've already argued my point. At this point, I can only assume you're either incapable of basic reading comprehension, or are purposely trying to antagonize.
In either case, I am done talking on this subject. I have made my point and presented my argument, albeit in a very simplified form for the sake of brevity.
Take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me.
Anita, what are you doing watching porn videos?
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cause most likely what you consider to be consentual is actually not gona stand up in cort. for example, verbal consent without multiple witnesses doesn't count. so unless you say in front of multiple people that you are ok with having sex with a specific person, or you have a document signed by that person, then technically there is still grounds for rape. if however you get someone drunk and they they say yup lets fuck and you have witnesses, even though they might not be in the right state of mind, that isn't rape. sooooooooooooooooooooooo there's that. also if a dog starts to hump your leg, are you raping it? i don't think so.
Besides, this shit is fiction, as in these are pixels.. In real life beastiality is a totally different thing, I find it pretty damn sick.
so wouldn't that apply to animals as well?
It would be different if this was a real life video and actually contained rape. 2D/3D characters are just that.. characters.
God, I hate people. >.<
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What I DID say is that rape and rape fantasies fulfill the same desire - to be in control and to dominate over another's will.
I explicitly said that rape fantasies do NOT make you a rapist - simply that having rape fantasies mean you have the same DESIRES as a rapist.
If you're going to try to use my own words against me, you can at least get said words correctly.
I'll give you a B- for effort, though. (:
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http://pastebin.com/K9pW7EQi
Not really sure why you linked this, especially assuming you're the same anonymous trying to argue me. Since this is just proof that I argued the idea is the same.
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This entire argument is fairly trivial. I'm not going to lie when I say I expected to take shit for this, but not through some association to rape.
I've made my argument, and now people can ready through a publicly available chat to further indulge themselves in my thought processes.
You all are free to make your own judgments. That's entirely your prerogative. Just as I am done discussing the topic of consent with regards to animals, and I am now done discussing the topic of my personal opinion on rape and rape fantasies.
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I like your space marines btw.